Undervalued Markets - How do Romania and Germany compare?
27th September 2007

There was a proliferation of property companies selling off-plan developments in both Germany and Romania last weekend at the Property Investor Show.

Romania Property Germany PropertyBut for the man off the street how are they expected to be able to make an informed decision about where to invest when being bombarded by reams of information as to why one place is better than another?

Essentially, the biggest thing to realise is that while both of these countries have low prices - typically around €800 - €2000 psm in each - their property markets are at completely different phases of development.

Romania has long been a speculative market due to a relatively undeveloped mortgage market, mass emigration and economic difficulties since the fall of communism left prices very low.

Speculation to basement level opportunity

Nowadays, however, the stability, investment and economic growth brought about by the conditions laid down by the EU for membership to its club have transformed Romania from a high risk investment location to one where the conditions are ripe for short term rapid growth, followed by more sustainable long term growth.

Romania has moved from being a speculative investment to a basement opportunity.

Germany on the other hand was a very mature property market 10-20 years ago with one of the strongest economies in the world and very high property prices.

Germany, since the mid-90's, has suffered over 10 years of economic decline and year on year property price deflation. Such a sustained period of economic malaise has left high unemployment and shattered confidence.

It's not if prices rise - it's just when

Germany is considered a value investment by many people as prices surely cannot go any lower and therefore must rise.

While I agree that prices are sure to rise, it is impossible to say WHEN they will rise. And until the economy improves (a raft of reforms are needed to stimulate this heavily regulated economy) and confidence returns to the market I see little sign of this happening on any great scale.

Why tie your money up in a market with little sign of growth in the short term?

Far better have your money working for you today in a high growth market.

On the other hand, we predict the Romanian property market will follow a very clear growth curve:


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Having been a speculative market, it is now showing signs of exceptional price growth and we expect prices to boom over the next couple of years, just as happened in Poland over the last 2-3 years.

Why Germany is different

Germany is different, however:


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It has had more than 10 years of price falls and it is impossible to predict whether prices will continue to stay at such a low level for the next few years, or whether they will start to grow next year or the year after, or the year after that.

Is Germany really all that bad?

The cost of reunification, lack of reform and a large property market crash in the mid-nineties has left the German property market in a mess.

Banks are still very cautious about lending money, especially to foreigners.

Banks are conservative institutions at the best of times, especially in Germany, and they don't have the confidence to lend having been stung badly over 10 years ago.

Theoretically, you can get 60-80% LTV finance in Germany, but even many of the German property agents at the property investor show admitted most of their clients only get 50% LTV, with many simply choosing to buy in cash (not sure they've done their ROI calculations).

I spoke to a number of people who only managed to get 40% LTV.

Furthermore, buying costs are often around 12-13% of the purchase price.

This is a lot of dead money, and makes the property market very illiquid. With little capital growth in the market, you are really going to have to hold the property for a long time before you can even recoup your buying costs.

Tenancy laws

While the tenancy laws have improved recently for the landlord they are still heavily in the tenant's favour.

The laws make it difficult to get tenants out if they don't pay the rent, and impossible to get them out if they want to continue to pay the rent for the next 20 years!

There are rules around how much you can increase the rent on your property each year, and it must stay within the set rent levels for that area dictated by the rent control committee.

This lack of a free rental market is just another dampener on the property market there.

Need I go on? I'm sure I could, but I think the point has been made.

See our Germany Property Market Profile for a more in-depth look at this market.

It's not all bad though, to be fair.

Prices are very low. Germany is still the world's largest exporter and third largest economy.

There is talk of reforming the mortgage market next year, which should lead to higher LTV's, and there are tentative signs that the economy is picking up.

But, overall, before I start putting my money into Germany I'd need to see substantial economic improvements, better mortgages, lower taxes and less regulation and a return in confidence so that locals start buying again.

While I don't see this happening in the short term, luckily there are many other markets with far better opportunities.

Romania by comparison

Let's take Romania for a comparison example.

Without going into details about the virtues of investing in Romania here, the property market there clearly has a lot of potential for growth. See Blakebrough's Blog and Neil Lewis' Max Growth blogs.

Romania is at the start of a huge boom in its property market.

Investment is flooding into the country, unemployment is very low, wages are rising and there is a lack of supply of property.

While mortgages still aren't great in Romania, they are improving rapidly, and if they develop at the same rate as everything else in Romania then you can expect the landscape of the Romanian mortgage market to be very different this time next year.

Essentially, you have two markets - Germany, that is still on a downer, with its aforementioned problems and little sign of improvement - and Romania, that is clearly full of energy and at the start of a huge upward swing that is likely to continue for some time.

Let the trend be your friend.

I know where I'd rather put my money - anyone agree / disagree?

Please read our Property Markets Reports and Investment Decision Makers for full details on where we believe are the best places to invest in each market.

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Admin Member Image Neil Lewis (PS) Undervalued Markets - Romania Vs Germany
Posted: Sep 27 07 14:18
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Hi Simon

Funny you should say that...

I've just added a blog on why I don't think Berlin property is cheap - I think it is fairly valued!

See the Max Growth blog at
http: / /www .propertysecrets .net /blogs /max _growth /berlin _property _cheap _hmmm /post -56 .html

Cheers
Neil

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Claude Germany
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The article mentions: "There is talk of reforming the mortgage market next year, which should lead to higher LTV's, and there are tentative signs that the economy is picking up." There is no talk of reform, there arent any coming reforms and there is no need to reform. After all Germany wouldnt have thrived with a banking sector in need of reform. As I said before on here, there are banks that offer 85%, and more, LTV to foreigners. It is just that they wont do it for Berlin, and eastern german, properties. There are a few good reason for that: - Berlin properties are not that good value, - they are unlikely to rise in vale in the short term cause the city can attract neither corporates nor immigrants, plus there is a huge oversupply - most importantly there is no resale market for Berlin properties in case they get repossessed by banks. Actually I am suprised that they bother give any mortgages at all even at 60%. U can, however, easily get 90% LTV for Frankfurt, Hamburg, Dusseldorf or Munich for instance and it would be a miracle if u could find anything decent for less than €1500 per square meter. Also I do agree with the fact that unless germany opens up its employment market and reforms its economy, we are unlikely to witness major capital growth. Hence if u are after capital gain, u might as well forget Germany altogether for the time being but keep on watching for signs of serious economic recovery. What is worth doing in Germany at the moment IMO are 2 things: - Buying bargain properties yielding 10+% yield. There is quite a few of them around, but this is the sort of stuff that u cant do from the confort of ur armchair. - Targeting the furnished BTL segment in the afore mentioned 4 cities. As most germans rent unfurnished, there is little offer of furnished properties, and the ones on offer are of poor quality. Demand for quality furnished apartments is fairly high but not too high either. Again, u cant do this from the confort of ur armchair either. U need to know the local tastes, the local popular areas, the local trends and so forth. C.

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Admin Member Image Neil Lewis (PS) Great - Frankfurt, Hamburg, Dusseldorf or Munich
Posted: Sep 27 07 15:56
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Hi Claude Thanks for this post... I think we are agreed then that the debate about Germany is no longer about Berlin. It is now about - Frankfurt, Hamburg, Dusseldorf or Munich... ... much more interesting! Cheers Neil

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