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Budapest Political Property Potential....
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Is Budapest a great property investment location?
At Property Secrets we've been cautious about Hungary and Budapest mainly due to the debt and currency risks.
So, I went to Budapest to see if the city is changing and if we should start to look at Budapest as a potential investment location.
Budapest is a beautiful city. It combines a layout that is similar to Prague (river + castle on the left bank and city on the right bank) but has the grandeur of Vienna (ie Museums and Imperial Palaces and boulvards - called The Ring in Vienna).
And, in someways, Budapest's property investment opportunity reflects these two cites too.
Budapest has a background feeling of grumpiness and river vistas - like Prague but also has the unkept/ poorly maintain feeling of malaise that Vienna has.
(As an aside - Vienna is a classic Germanic property recovery case - more so than Berlin, I believe - but there appears to be absolutely no property investor chat about Vienna whilst everyone has an opinion on Berlin. Why? Can only be the marketing, surely?)
Anyway, the key problem with Vienna is political. It has a socialist city government which likes to keep taxes high which pays for a social housing scheme which is designed to wreck the private investment market.
I'm not saying that Budapest has these same problem - but it does have a different political problem which is key to unlocking its property investment potential.
That is, Budapest and Hungary, suffer from high taxes (including a tax on a companies INCOME - not just profit) as well as income tax upto 36% (it reaches 50% in Austria). Either way, this is a very high tax rate compared to its neighbours (Slovakia 19% and Romania 16%).
These tax structures are complex and encourage money to stay in the black market (this is how companies reduce their revenues and therefore taxes).
The good news, tho', is that the current Hungarian government is on a path of reform.
Government debt was 9% of GDP in Jan 07 and is due to fall to 6% of GDP by the end of Dec 07. (Note, Euro entry requires debt as a % of GDP to be less than 3%). Hence, very good progress is being made - but a lot more remains to be done.
There is also an intention to simplify the taxes - but the ability of the government to reduce taxes is hampered by high levels of debt.
Equally, reform (and reduction of government spending) is politically risky. Currently the government is a coalition, so the chances of collapse of this round of reform is high.
The compulsion to reform will be driven by missing out on the economic growth of its neighbours and hence the more it suffers short term - perversely - the more likely is long term reform.
Therefore, Budapest has the arcitecture to be a stunningly beautiful city. This has the ability to draw the head offices of corporations and the trendy creative people with it.
However, Budapest is a recovery play - it is for the first time on the path of reform - the currency has recovered and risk of a currency collapse has receeded.
In many ways, Hungary can't help but be successful - 3 neighbours are booming like mad - Romania, Poland, Slovakia along with good growth in Austria and Slovenia - so in many ways it can't help but grow.
The risk is that this easy 'gifted' growth might dampen the need for reform.
In Autumn of last year people were on the streets protesting at the governments admission of lying about the economy. This appears to have compelled the coalition to pool their efforts to agree a reform package.
But will it last? Will the government - this one or the next one - be able to carry out reforms without the carrot of EU entry (this is how the other countries did it)?
On this issue... the likelihood of tax and fiscal reform ... the decision to invest in Budapest should be made.
It is possible that Hungary will simply deliver watered down reforms - like those in Germany - or it might genuinely make itself competitive with its low tax neighbours.
Hungary and Budapest have relatively high productivity rates. The city is cosmopolitan and big - 2 million - twice the size of Prague.
It lies at the centre of Central and South Eastern Europe. Physically, it is the natural place for logistics and big box manufactures (this is why Phillips is here - and why Hungary is attracting Asian electronics companies (TV's come in big boxes these days).
But, the reforms are costing jobs - doctors, nurses and the health care system are being reduced. (You can imagine how unpopular this makes them). Government jobs are being lost too.
This must have an impact on the economy as it pulls jobs out of the economy.
At the moment, this will be masked by growth in other areas and a moderate economic GDP growth.
The question remains - whilst the government can probably get debt down to 6% of GDP by the end of 07 - can it get debit below 3%?
If it can then the reforms will have been accepted and Euro entry becomes a real possiblity (with a 50% reduction in interet rates). In this scenario property investors would reap great rewards.
But, it might not happen at all, it might be delayed or it might simply take much longer.
On that, you have to rely on the ability of the current political leadership to carry through the reforms.
Based on a coalition government this is a big risk.
But on the evidence so far, it might be a risk worth taking.
Cheers Neil
With full tax and fiscal reforms - Budapest could be a 200% candidate for property price growth - but I think the most likely outcome is moderate reforms are delivered / implemented. This would drop Budapest out of the 200% club.
However, if you like Berlin (ie recovery plays) then perhaps Budapest is a better alternative - on the assumption that you are willing to wait? So, I'm not putting Budapest in my 200% club - not yet anyway - but I'll put it near the top of a list of recovery plays?
Agree or disagree?
ps. I haven't considered that there may be over supply of new build to the north and south of Budapest. Whilst this may or may not be true (opinion anyone?) I don't think this would stop you investing in Budapest. It would simply guide you away from big developments on the city fringe and direct you to redevelopment of city fringe blocks.
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POSTED BY
NEIL LEWIS
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WED 25TH JULY
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04:38 GMT
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WAIT AND SEE ON HUNGARY'S RISKS AND UNCERTAINTIES
NeilIt's useful to read the views of a dispassionate expert on the ground in Budapest. And I think you're dead right on Hungary.The government has clearly made good progress in turning the dire economic state around - and impressed the EU along the way. It's also impressed currency investors, as you noted.But, the situation was so desperate last year (as reflected in the currency in the first three quarters of the year), that any sign that the government was tackling the country's economic woes was bound to drive up confidence. I'd say that currency strength in an emerging economy like Hungary's can be a very fickle indicator of economic strength - or weakness.The fact remains that there is a long, long way to go, AND the efforts needed - which consist of very tough political decisions - to shrink that deficit - still the highest in Europe - become increasingly harder. The really big challenges for Hungary lie ahead - not behind. It still needs to tackle cuts and efficiencies in the politically hyper-sensitive areas of health, pensions and state bureaucracy.The economy hasn't turned the corner yet and, I agree with you, that this means we can't yet see the strong likelihood of the kind of fast economic growth and the consequent high cap growth in the property market that's needed to join the 200% club.The latest EU report on Hungary's progress provided some useful insight on the current state of play.In a generally upbeat report, which praised Hungary's efforts, the EU monetary affairs commissioner, Joaquin Almunia, added a cautionary message, saying that the country's finances were still 'fragile' and the 2009 deadline for coming into line with the EU's stability pact's 3% of GDP limit on fiscal deficit was subject to 'risks and uncertainties'. That's EU speak for 'the jury's still out.'Tellingly, Almunia added that the EU would continue to monitor Hungary closely, especially in the light of its 'past record' of being economical with the truth about the state of its finances. The government did after all lie for years to its people and the EU.The bottom line is - maybe Budapest will turn out to be a winner, but the prospects are far from clear yet. So, why should an investor take the risk when you look at the alternatives?CheersRobin
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POSTED BY
ROBIN BOWMAN
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FRI 27TH JULY
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10:11
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BAD NEWS FOR HUNGARY
Guys
Well, it seems the summer squeeze on credit is putting the reforms in Hungary at risk.
See this very down beat review by the EIU
http: / /www .economist .com /daily /news /displaystory .cfm?story _id=9675615
"Hungary, however, is in the midst of an austerity drive that has nearly brought the economy to a standstill. In a region where first-quarter GDP growth averaged around 7%, Hungary’s economy grew by just 2.7%. The flash estimate for the second quarter, at just 1.4% year on year, is even more alarming. In this context, the maintenance of relatively high interest rates at their current level is the last thing the economy needs. Still, this remains a serious risk."
So, there is a substantial risk that Hungary's reforms won't bite before the markets do.
This doesn't destroy the long term potential of beautiful Budapest.
But it does mean it is a wait and see - ie. wait until there is a decent opportunity to buy and any blood spilling is over - and then come into the market on a value basis.
Bad news for those already invested - but a potential candidate for investors in 1 to 2 years time?
Cheers
Neil
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POSTED BY
NEIL LEWIS
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WED 22ND AUGUST
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15:13
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HUNGARY
I like this Idea ..... a running commentary on each country!! Forum threads for all of the potential markets.
I agree with everything your man on the ground has to say, however I am more upbeat about it. The poor growth figures are just a blip, as for the existing coalition - if It fails, I do not see it as necessarily a bad thing. If Fidesz takes the reins of power they will continue with asterity measures but will also cut taxes and thus I see that the country will become more competitive.
The drive to the EMU will not be slowed, the current government has started down this route - no going back, no future government would DARE to reverse the progress. Thats how I see it anyway.
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RICHARD
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THU 23RD AUGUST
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07:43
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Neil Lewis, CEO and founder of Property Secrets, is an experienced property investor in his own right and author of two highly successful property investment books, Buy To Let Secrets and Property Developer Secrets.
Neil owns property in the UK, Spain, Poland, Romania and the Czech and Slovak Republics. He is a regular columnist for Property Week magazine and has been quoted in a number of UK and European broadsheet newspapers and magazines.
A regular speaker at property investment events, Neil has appeared at CEPIF in Warsaw and the Property Investor Show and the Homebuyer Show, both in London.
His business background is from publishing to a wide range of industries such as Finance, Music, Travel, Economics and Politics before setting up Property Secrets seven years ago. Neil studied Philosophy and speaks German, Spanish and a lot of English.
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