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Headline of the week - and the winner is.....
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| We've decided to revive an old tradition here at Property Secrets - the award for the week's most misleading headline! We started the contest a few years back - way back, actually - when there seemed to be a never ending flurry of headlines basically predicting the end of the world.
And yet, often, if you were one of the few people who actually read the text, you'd find that the doomsday headline presided over copy that said something rather different.
No one's denying that there are serious economic problems out there: plenty, in fact, from credit squeezes, to rising inflation, probably followed by many of the major economies facing rapid growth slowdown and recession.
And property markets in developed economies look, well, a little sickly right now. Never has our advice to consider property investment as a long term venture been so apposite.
But there is nothing like some ugly numbers to bring out those two ultra-enthusiastic writers, Messers Doomsday and Armageddon.
When things are bad, they like to make out they're catastrophic and, more scarily, that there will be no end, no upturn. It's into the abyss time.
We've been in this territory before, of course. Who can forget that award winning splash in the London Standard in 1999, quoting 'experts' advising everyone in London to sell up and rent NOW!
The Economist, no less, did it, too, in 2003. They used the p/e ratio as used to value equities, applied it to property (misguidedly), and advised everyone to sell and rent too.
Nice one! Great advice! How to lose out on around 100% growth with one lousy decision.
Of course, UK property prices are falling, and fast - no one's denying that. But they are falling on very low volumes because as employment is (so far) still high, people in large numbers are not being forced to sell.
Anyway, that's old news.
Now, media attention will increasingly turn to markets other than the obvious ones of the US, UK, Spain and Ireland, where we know there's a steep slide.
In fact, it already has turned. We spotted a great piece in MoneyWeek. As the headline was, 'Worst is Yet to Come for Eastern Europe', you can imagine it aroused our interest.
Well, it's one way of attracting attention - write a headline that bears no relation to the story.
'After years of strong growth and stronger spending in the ex-communist countries, life is about to get tough for consumers,' said the strap line.
But actually, no. What the article said was that Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania were in for a tough time because of their ultra inflationary wage rises and consumer spending binges. We agree with that.
But these are small states in Eastern Europe. What about the bigger economies - Poland, Czech, Slovakia, Romania and the smaller Bulgaria? Despite the dire headline, the article surprised us. It agreed with us entirely!
Admittedly, you had to scan to the latter part of the piece to find the commentary on these bigger and far more significant markets, but it was there.
Czech, Poland and Slovakia - "....suffer least from the imbalances and deficits that threaten most of the region, and their growth has largely come from productive investment, rather than overheated, debt-fuelled consumer-spending binge or an asset-price bubble. Growth will slow, but overall effects will be fairly mild."
The worst is yet to come, eh.
What about Romania and Bulgaria? Dire straits? Er, not really...
"The consensus on Bulgaria and Romania sees them slowing from their current 6% growth, but remaining fairly strong." Which is exactly what we've been saying for months!
The small and clearly over-leveraged economies of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia, as well as CEE's sick man economy, Hungary, are exceptions.They have a rough time ahead.
But the fact is that no CEE economies will be immune from a general economic slowdown, maybe outright recession, in the more developed countries, especially in Europe. But the key is that the slow down in our key markets - Czech, Slovakia, Poland and Romania - is from a very rapid pace of growth, so the effects will be milder.
They are safe havens for investors then.
But 'CEE offers investment safe haven' doesn't have the drama of "The Worst is Yet to Come' , now, does it?
Feel free to add any of Headlines of the Week you may spot. We may even give a prize for the best one. Free Spanish villa on the costas, anyone?
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POSTED BY
ROBIN BOWMAN
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FRI 11TH JULY
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12:17 GMT
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HEADLINE OF THE WEEK - AND THE WINNER IS.....
Hi Robin - this made me laugh! The curious thing is that in Spain we've already lost 100,000+ construction jobs - but not had any of these headlines. In the UK, we have a threat to 60,000 jobs and the headlines are appocalyptic. It is amazing the way that the UK media dominates the agenda here. Cheers Neil
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POSTED BY
NEIL LEWIS
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FRI 11TH JULY
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12:23
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Wealth check up - Banking giant reveals the state of household wealth in CEE - AND the real prospects for property investment
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Italian banking giant UniCredit carries out some of the best and most in-depth research into CEE markets in the business.
And it's not surprising - 22% of the bank's €13 billion of revenue now comes from CEE markets.
So it's always worth listening to the bank's analyst briefings, one of which they gave in London the other day.
The main thrust of its report was that while its investment bank wing was being hurt by the US subprime fallout the rising shining star was still central and Eastern Europe where the Italian bank plans to open 502 new branches this year.
Chief Executive Officer Alessandro Profumo said growth had been ``healthy growth'' at its central and eastern European businesses.
Loan growth would probably rise 28% this year, he said and the region offered 'exceptional opportunities.'
Interesting in itself, but even more so are some of the numbers from the bank's recent report into the financial wealth of CEE households 2007 - 2009. This provides a great insight into the real investment potential of this region unobscured by the credit crunch fallout that seems to overshadow everything right now.
And, to be clear, when it refers to CEE countries, it's talking about Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia and Turkey.
Financial wealth of CEE households topped €718 billion in 2007 'thanks to strong economic growth and improved labour market conditions and given limited impact so far from the US sub-prime crisis.
'In the years to come, good economic prospects will continue to support the accumulation of financial wealth, although with some lowering in its dynamic.
'The growth of financial wealth will continue to greatly exceed that of the real economy averaging 14% a year in 2008-2009 to reach 64% of GDP by 2009.'
What is significant here is not so much the amount or the pace, but both of these relative to Western Europe. The gap is still big and the pace of growth very rapid indeed. At the end of 2006 CEE household financial wealth reached almost €600 billionn (up by 15 % year on year), and posting double-digit growth for the third year in a row.
Although CEE wealth and euro area wealth are converging very quickly, there is still a significant gap.
In 2006, household financial wealth over GDP equalled 56 % in CEE, versus 205 % in the euro area (in CEE, the same ratio was 54 % in 2005 and 43 % in 2000).
This then is a measure of huge potential and also very fast growth of CEE spending (and investing) power.
And what of the credit crunch? We've heard a lot about how CEE banks are relatively immune as they lend based on deposits, but the fact is that in a modern banking system no bank can isolate itself in this way - especially when so much debt in CEE is foreign denominated, making it vulnerable to external interest rates and currency volatility.
Here's what UniCredit says on the matter: 'The recent "credit crunch" has raised fears that house- hold debt might be overstretched in some countries and that the future growth of household wealth may be unsustainable.
'While financial markets are typically subject to cyclical swings and excesses, we believe there is a good basis for continued sustainable growth in the medium term.'
Here's a summary:
- Strong economic growth and quickly developing financial markets are driving the accumulation of financial wealth
- High levels of consumption and high demand for new houses and renovation continue to spur the growth of the level of household debt at a higher level than that of financial assets, resulting in the stabilisation of net financial wealth relative to GDP
- Households are however continuing to save, increasingly shifting towards the real estate market
'Household debt still appears to be relatively low compared to GDP, reaching 18 % in 2006 compared to 55 % observed in the euro area, although these levels are converging at a fast pace.
The credit boom was connected to the household sector's desire to acquire durable goods and housing and to the improved access to the credit market. Quickly developing real estate markets also contributed to an increase in the household sector's willingness to borrow.'
And here are the summaries of some key CEE countries' prospects: Bulgaria
Despite a rapid surge in debt in H1 2007, the household sector reconfirmed its position as a net saver.
Deceleration in the pace of household debt accumulation will keep net wealth as a share of GDP on an upward trend in the next few years to reach 30 % of GDP in 2009.
The continued rapid development in mortgage financing and the high propensity to invest in real estate assets will continue to support a further increase in corrected net wealth, expected to reach 44 % of GDP in 2009 from 37 % in 2007.
Czech Republic
The financial assets of Czech households grew by over 13% yoy in the first six months of 2007. The trends within the sector changed a bit, with investment now more evenly distributed in relative terms between bank deposits and other forms of savings.
Household liabilities drastically increased by about 30% yoy in the first six months of 2007. The lion's share of growth was again due to mortgages.
Overall, we still anticipate double-digit growth rates in both mortgages and consumer loans in the next few years, despite some slight easing in the overall pace of expansion in total liabilities compared to the recent past.
Driven by rapidly expanding financial liabilities, the net wealth to GDP ratio of Czech households is expected to decrease further accompanied by a stable trend in the corrected net wealth to GDP ratio due to the high demand for housing investment. Poland
Remarkable acceleration in the accumulation of wealth in 2006 and 2007 was driven by rebounding economic activity and a rapid increase in household income.
Despite vigorous growth in household debt stimulated by relatively low interest rates, net financial wealth as a share of GDP increased significantly, reaching 44 % in 2006, and will exceed 47 % in 2007.
Although the rate of growth is decelerating overall, the fast convergence of income levels is expected to keep the accumulation of net financial wealth on an upward trend, reaching 49 % of GDP in 2009.
The recent vitality in household wealth has been positively influenced by a rapid increase in asset prices. So far, prices have been only marginally impacted by the recent turbulence on the international markets.
Downward adjustments in equity prices next year and a high level of consumption are expected to limit financial asset growth to around 15 % in the forthcoming period.
Sustained growth is expected to continue in household debt, mainly driven by the continuing strong demand for housing investments.
Improving financial conditions for low-income households will provide further stimulus, especially in the personal loan segment. Romania
The accumulation of household financial wealth further accelerated in 2007, reaching 26 % of GDP, driven by a strong upsurge in household bank deposits.
This increase has been stimulated by improving real returns and the very dynamic performance of the stock market.
The stock market has been only marginally impacted by the recent turmoil on the international markets.
Despite the sustained accumulation of financial wealth, the high demand for both consumer and mortgage loans will cause a further decrease in net wealth over GDP from 11 % in 2006 to 10 % in 2007, while corrected net wealth is expected to stabilize around 13 % of GDP.
Overall, these developments confirm that Romanian households are generally reluctant to save, despite some slight improvements anticipated in the years to come. Slovakia
In the first half of 2007, the accumulation of financial assets remained on a stable upward trend driven by strong economic performance and increasing real wages.
Fast increase of household debt driven by falling interest rates that increased the household sector's access to the credit market and its demand for loans for both consumer goods and real estate investments.
In the forthcoming period, the ratio of net wealth to GDP is expected to remain fairly stable around 36 %, given the willingness of households to maintain a high consumption level and to direct their savings towards the real estate market.
Low interest rates will probably gradually slow down the growth of bank deposits. On the liabilities side, mortgages and consumer loans will remain the main driving forces.
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POSTED BY
ROBIN BOWMAN
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THU 3RD APRIL
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14:19 GMT
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Florida bites back! Signs of things to come? And perhaps a sense of perspective....
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Here perhaps is some real perspective on the current state of the property market in the US and - if you follow one logical line of argument - also by extension the UK property market.
The Wall Street Journal is currently featuring a piece about how bargain hunters in the States are starting to circle in some of the areas most badly hit by foreclosures.
Deals are there to be done and some are spectacular - 40% and more off asking prices.
And, while some buyers are hanging back in anticipation of even more mouth-watering deals, it seems many buyers simply can't resist the kind of prices on offer. There is evidence of bidding wars over distressed properties and one agent describes how the showings they conducted tripled in February over the same time last year.
Near the bottom?
So, does this indicate that we are near or are nearing the bottom in the US, simply because the bottom fishers are becoming active? Could be.
Now there's no doubt that the US property market has been hit far worse than the UK's - so far.
Not so, in Spain's case, however, where the property market is currently being hammered on a US scale. The Spanish press is talking of falls in home purchases on the secondary market of about 35%. Total lending to home-buyers fell almost 28 per cent to €13.4bn. Anyone looking at the costas is going to find a lot of choice. No evidence of bargain hunters gathering there yet. But they surely will at some point?
In terms of the UK market, we've seen lots of evidence of some minor price falls, mortgage lending falling and even the BoE's Mr King has said he will be 'surprised' if real UK property prices are much higher in a few years' time than they are now.
Putting aside our faith in Mr King, few would disagree with that, surely. He added that such an adjustment in real prices would be a good thing - surely few would disgree with that either. There is no suggestion though that the medium to long term outlook is anything but positive.
So, if we believe the UK market will go where first the US and now Spain are going (two markets like the UK that have seen huge property price growth fuelled by cheap credit), then we may, in the US at least, see some glimmer of perspective about the so-called 'meltdown' we keep hearing about.
Why?
Because what really leaps out of the WSJ piece are the numbers.
Meltdown
It's often the case that the extreme pockets of the market are where the focus ends up - the huge price falls. These are what lead to talk of a 'meltdown'.
But when you look behind the rhetoric, things are a little less dramatic. The most distressed state is Florida - home to THE most distressed area in the US in terms of property price falls - the Cape Coral-Fort Myers metro area in southwest Florida, according to RealtyTrac of Irvine, California.
This is THE worst place in the whole, vast US property market, with a record 3,739 properties in some stage of foreclosure, or one in 84 households - that's nearly seven times the national average.
Average sale prices for family homes in Lee County, which encompasses Fort Myers and Cape, are down 17%.
That's bad, but remember this is THE worst. So, is this the meltdown we've been hearing about?
And the rate of price fall across the nation, in which the property market is regularly described as being in freefall? An 8% fall.
When you factor in all those huge discounted deals of 40% and 50% and suchlike are wrapped up in that figure of 8% overall, this starts to put matters in perspective, surely?
If this is a meltdown, it's not as we know it!
What is also very significant is that once the lending blockage starts to ease - as it will at some point this year - we are going to see a huge amount of hoarded money (hoarded by banks) aimed at investment through credit lines, and a lot of this is almost certainly going to head into property markets that look like they offer real bargains.
Where to invest?
Where else will it go? 8% down - even 17% - compared to what equities have done in the last few years is reassuring.
Now, while it may not be time to dip a toe back in the water of the UK market yet, because things will almost certainly get worse before they start to get better, maybe, that worse isn't really going to be so bad after all - even if it is still likely we won't see much growth in the UK for the next two to three years.
So maybe now - while sentiment is depressed and yet fundamentals are basically the same as previously - is the time to look at those markets that will really benefit from the pick up in confidence?
Those economies with huge potential for growth and which have previously attracted huge amounts of FDI. Which for any smart property investor brings us back to selected markets in central and Eastern Europe...surely!
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POSTED BY
ROBIN BOWMAN
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MON 31ST MARCH
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21:41 GMT
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FLORIDA BITES BACK! SIGNS OF THINGS TO COME? AND PERHAPS A SENSE OF PERSPECTIVE....
Hi Robin People are starting to look at the Florida market as a golden opportunity now with prices looking so cheap and the weak dollar. In my view Florida will always be a good location. Its demographics are good with around 3,000 people moving to the state each day (from memory so open to corrections!), tourism industry continues to do well etc. Some issues I would raise with Florida and more experienced investors in the market might be able to comment on this: Buying in the right area for rentals – I would imagine property a lot of investors will be looking at will be dependent on the tourist market thus very important to get location right, in terms of areas that permit holiday lets and in particular short term lets. Running costs and county taxes are high I believe so important to get the rental right. In my opinion, it might be time to start looking but I wouldn’t be in any hurry yet. After so much capital growth and price inflation in the US and particularly Florida, there is probably more depreciation to come yet and along with that more foreclosures. Anyone looking at getting into the US market now? Noreen
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POSTED BY
NOREEN LUCEY
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TUE 1ST APRIL
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13:00
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RE: FLORIDA BITES BACK! SIGNS OF THINGS TO COME? AND PERHAPS A SENSE OF PERSPECTIVE....
I think the time will be right very soon, if not already, to look at places like Florida. Yes the mrket may not have botomed out just yet but when it does, say in 6 months time it will be too late as the signals will be obvious to everyone. Better to get in just before the bottom and be ready for the rebound. Noreen you're absolutely right in what you say. I nearly bought 18 months ago but was put off by the bubble and the high property taxes but I think I'd put up with the latter now. It's just a question of the time to do the research. I'm going to take a look at North Carolina when I go out there in June as that was quite a booming area and may throw up some bargains but I do think the right property in the right area of Florida will be a good bet now. One final thought - I wonder how many of the forclosures are real "sub-prime" - wooden roadside shacks and/or mobile homes. I suspect quite a lot. Huw
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POSTED BY
HUW
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TUE 1ST APRIL
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22:44
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RE: FLORIDA BITES BACK! SIGNS OF THINGS TO COME? AND PERHAPS A SENSE OF PERSPECTIVE....
One thing to keep in mind on the US economic situation, while we have seen the credit crunch unfold the effect on the wider economy has yet to be fully felt. If this effect results in widespread job losses (likely at some stage) then further property market declines will follow. Such declines need not be restricted purely to sub-prime.
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GEORGEH
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WED 2ND APRIL
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08:17
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RE: FLORIDA BITES BACK! SIGNS OF THINGS TO COME? AND PERHAPS A SENSE OF PERSPECTIVE....
Hi George I wasn't suggesting any further problems would be related just to sub prime, only that Florida has a significant element of sub-prime properties, which lead to the stats quoted above. As you say, it's really a question of judgement as to how far the market has got to fall. My view is that it will be near the bottom in the next 3 months which will be the time to start looking. Huw
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HUW
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WED 2ND APRIL
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08:55
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RE: FLORIDA BITES BACK! SIGNS OF THINGS TO COME? AND PERHAPS A SENSE OF PERSPECTIVE....
Have to agree with Huw, There is no doubt in my mind that the US has a long struggle ahead of it, however Florida is somewhat insulated from the pain because of the international tourist industry, Florida prices will recover more quickly than elsewhere due to speculative buying - based on the likelyhood of a fast recovery. The problem is this way of thinking. The problem I see is that people are basing their property purchasing decisions assuming that the tourism will rebound quickly due to international holidaymakers due to weak dollar, consider that the $ will not stay weak for long since the FED will have to raise interest rates quickish within 6 months to offset inflationary pressures by my reckoning. Consider also that a weak US economy / global slowdown will result in a FALL in national & international holiday makers. Consider also that prices are not cheap yet .... or even good value! Since we are talking of falls from the position of being massively overvalued. I'd give it another 6 months, wait for the Bush government to indicate the rise of interest rates, - a sure sign that the property market has bottomed out. Another good indicator will be the recovery of builders stocks and shares ..... usually preceeds the property market recovery by 4 months or so. Until then your money is better off invested elsewhere.
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RICHARD
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WED 2ND APRIL
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10:01
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RE: FLORIDA BITES BACK! SIGNS OF THINGS TO COME? AND PERHAPS A SENSE OF PERSPECTIVE....
Hi It appears it's not just Florida! Bargain seekers buy up Detroit foreclosures, reports that city's paper. Investors from both the U.S. and abroad have descended upon Detroit, purchasing foreclosed homes in bulk, says the Detroit Free Press. In February, home sales were up 49% in the city, which led the U.S. in the number of foreclosures last year. Many buyers are snatching up multiple properties with the hopes of selling them back to investors to rent them out. Homes in Detroit's "better neighborhoods" garner $850 a month. Many hope to later sell the homes and are betting that the local market will improve within the next five to 10 years. With so many foreclosures on the market now, "banks must sell in bulk so they don't get overwhelmed with property," says the piece. However, closing on a bulk foreclosure deal with a bank can be tough going, according to the article. While investors may look to get homes at 20 to 25 cents on the dollar, banks holding Detroit properties are seeking 30 to 35 cents on the dollar. Obviously, if you're looking at a market like Detroit, you are well advised to do your due diligence well, as parts of the city notoriously resemble a war zone! But 30 cents to the dollar in the 'better neighbourhoods' is bound to attract interest. Maybe, though, we're talking here simply about speculators? cheers
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ROBIN BOWMAN
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WED 2ND APRIL
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10:44
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RE: FLORIDA BITES BACK! SIGNS OF THINGS TO COME? AND PERHAPS A SENSE OF PERSPECTIVE....
Hi The National Association of Realtors (NAR) 2008 Investment and Holiday Home Buyers Survey was published this week and made for some interesting reading. The report painted a picture of the property market in decline comparing figures between 2006 and 2007 - this we all know - however the interesting part of the report was the increase in foreign investors in the US. It doesn’t come as any surprise that with the strength of the Pound and the Euro against the Dollar; and a large amount of cheap, distressed properties on offer, foreign buyers are helping to take up some of the slack left by the sub-prime crisis in the US. It is the profile of the foreign investors that makes for interesting reading - the majority of foreign property buyers in the US are from Europe (33%) with UK investors (12%) making up the biggest percentage - the five most acquisitive nationalities investing in US property are: Mexico (13%), UK (12%), Canada (11%), India (6%) and China (5%). The report also provided useful insights about UK investors buying in the US. They are predominantly lifestyle buyer with 55% wanting the property as a ‘holiday home’, with only 23% of investors who said their property was to be used as a rental investment and 21% planned to use the property for both holiday and holiday letting. Nearly two-thirds (64%) of UK investors purchased in the South of the country followed by the West (26%), Midwest (5%) and the North East (5%). A larger percentage of foreign buyers from the United Kingdom – nearly half – purchased homes in Florida than any other state, the report stated. When financing their purchase, 33% of UK buyers paid in cash – which is higher than the average for foreign investors (28%). The only country that paid in cash more than the UK was Canada (47%). So Florida again features as an old favourite but buyers from India and China are now starting to dip their toe in the US property market. This corresponds with our discussion yesterday about the notion that sustained growth in emerging economies this year could tickle the economic giants of this world a little? Noreen
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POSTED BY
NOREEN LUCEY
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WED 2ND APRIL
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11:08
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RE: FLORIDA BITES BACK! SIGNS OF THINGS TO COME? AND PERHAPS A SENSE OF PERSPECTIVE....
i also find the US an interesting market - not just because it's such a buyers' market but also because i think the dollar is likely to strengthen against the pound over the next year or two. but just as in the UK, there's plenty of good data on sale prices and very little on rental yields. anyone come across anything useful, e.g. for locations in florida? regards, dan
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DAN W
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FRI 4TH APRIL
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19:21
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RE: FLORIDA BITES BACK! SIGNS OF THINGS TO COME? AND PERHAPS A SENSE OF PERSPECTIVE....
US is for sure a good time to buy at the moment but if you do then buy a foreclosure in an auction house not one in an agency window. More work but it means the price willl be wholesale not retail and currently there is plenty of choice to get what you want.
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BULBASAURUS
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SAT 5TH APRIL
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03:59
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Europe's own China
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"Europe’s periphery has emerged as one of the most vibrant parts of the global economy – a fact little recognised by investors mesmerised by the emergence of China and India"
FT, 8th Jan http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4f1867d8-bd44-11dc-b7e6-0000779fd2ac.html
How true is this?
This is a quote from the chief market strategist at Bank of America on the FT's site yesterday - 8th Jan 2008.
Well, I kind of want to say 'told you so'! And aren't you glad you have invested in these markets before the rest of the FT reading public?
But what is really interesting is that it is now becoming public knowledge that China and India have mesmerised investors into missing the opportunities in central Eastern Europe.
Why is that?
From BRICS to 'BRICEES'
Well, one possible (but false) explanation for why investors might have missed central Eastern Europe is because the opportunity isn't as good - but I don't believe this and nor does the Chief Market Strategist of Bank of America based on his recent article.
I believe that investors missed central Eastern Europe because it is a complex and diverse region and isn't as easy to prononuce as India or China.
As I argued in my recent End of Term Performance Report - the term BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India and China) has missed out the other most exciting (but also most stable and secure) region of central and Eastern Europe.
Hence, I propose that we should now talk about Brickies (BRICEES) and not just BRICS! (This also seems the most appropriate name given that we are interesting in property in this region).
It is much easier, for instance, to talk India - than it is to talk about the 12 new countries that have joined the EU in the past 3 years - along with as many languages and nearly as many currencies (Cyprus, Malta and Slovenia have now all successfully adopted the Euro).
Yet, this diversity is exactly why the region offers such opportunity. Whilst the Baltics have done their bit on property price growth for now - the focus has shifted to Romania and Bulgaria.
However, just as Czech Republic began a second wave of property growth last year, so Slovakia is re-entering the property price growth curve and will be followed by a second wave in Poland - in about 12 months.
The good news - is that many investors still haven't figured out where central Eastern Europe is - nor have they managed to stick any money there yet.
Hence, whilst these markets certainly registered excellent growth and are experiencing increased interest from fund investors - the region remains relatively untouched by foreign investors!
This would suggest that there is plenty more growth to come! But that you do need to know your Bucharests from your Budapests! And that is the sustainable advantage that Property Secrets can offer.
Cheers Neil
ps. One last quote from yesterday's article 'Europe’s got its own China next door'
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POSTED BY
NEIL LEWIS
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TUE 8TH JANUARY
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17:29 GMT
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EUROPE'S OWN CHINA
Hi Neil Interesting quote from Martin Wolf writing in the FT about the challenges ahead for the world economy on Tuesday: 'Yet the remarkable fact about this turmoil is that emerging economies are emerging as safe havens: growth there is being sustained; and credit spreads have moved little. 'The apparent invulnerability of emerging economies to the US slowdown is noteworthy. It is duly noted in the World Bank's latest Global Economic Prospects. '.......It is astonishing how widespread rapid growth has now become in the developing world. In 2007, for example, growth is estimated by the World Bank to have run at 10.0 per cent in east Asia, 8.4 per cent in south Asia, 6.7 per cent in eastern Europe and central Asia, 6.1 per cent in sub-Saharan Africa, 5.1 per cent in Latin America and 4.9 per cent in the Middle East and north Africa. 'The soaring prices of oil and other commodities make this picture of broadly shared growth yet more noteworthy. These have had remarkably little impact on global growth. It is far more plausible to view them as a consequence of growth than as a constraint upon its continuation.' The growth momentum seems so strong that even if it is affected by a slowdown in developed countries - an effect I think is inevitable - there is plenty of capacity there to still see very strong growth. One interesting area to consider is whether FDI into CEE from developed countries - the main driving force for growth - will slow if there is a sustained slowdown in the west, where most of the investment is coming from. I think this is partly how these economies are different to those of China, Brazil and Russia, which are being driven by massive trade surpluses. The answer is pretty positive and I'll aim to have a look at this in a forthcoming blog. cheers
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POSTED BY
ROBIN BOWMAN
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THU 10TH JANUARY
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11:53
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RE: EUROPE'S OWN CHINA
Thanks Robin yes - this re-enforces the view we had back in the Autumn that the credit crunch is turning the assessment of risk upside down. Emerging markets are definately in! Cheers Neil
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NEIL LEWIS
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THU 10TH JANUARY
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11:56
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200% Growth Challenge
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Good morning from Valencia Airport.
I have a challenge - please name any city that has seen over 200% growth (ie a property you bought for 100,000 Euros is now worth 300,000 Euros) in the past 5 years!
Let's make a list of all the really successful property hotspots over the past 5 years.
Why 200%? Well, that is the amount that I believe property prices in Valencia have risen in the past 5 years.
I know this because I moved here over 5 years ago and bought our first property here (sold this spring) for over 200% profit.
How many other cities - across the world - have acheived this growth in the past 5 years? Let's make a list!
There is a reason to this ...
... and it is because I am leaving Valencia today on a fact finding / Max Growth searching trip to the UK, Italy, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia and Croatia to find the next candidates for 200% growth in 5 years.
Let's call it the 200% Success Club (those that did it) and the 200% Opportunity Club (those that have the potential)...
... and let me tell you - now that Valencia is a successful destination - it even has WiFi in its airport lounge! Wow - that really is arriving....
Seriously tho', Valencia won the America's Cup - which play to huge success this June and will in Aug 2008 host a city F1 race around its harbour.
It is also very likely that the next America's Cup will be here too - and even if not - the team bases will remain in Valencia...
... the airport has just completed a new extension and the metro is still adding stations and stops...
... but the property market is dead - hit by a doubling of interest rates ... and isn't going anywhere for a few years.
Most people in Valencia with property will be holding the property for a couple of years now before they will be able to exit and turn their paper profits into real cash.
This is not a problem for those who entered the market 5 years ago - because they can offer a 10% discount to get the sale. Or because the rentals on a property bought 5 years ago offer good yields.
It is just a problem for those who entered the market late!
And this is the warning - hot markets - entered late are a very bad investment.
Whereas, markets that will become hot - entered early are fantastic investments.
How do you tell the difference? Well, that is the topic of this blog - and what I'll be attempting to do as I travel around the UK and Central and Souther Europe this summer.
I think most of us would agree, that these markets are still in early phases of growth - but let us see how early - and how hard it is to invest (this is the problem with entering early - the infrastructure doesn't exist or is immature - making things harder - but not impossible).
Next stop - Crewe Station - let's see what the potential growth in Crewe over the next 5 years might be...
Cheers Neil
ps. Please post your candidates for Success Club and Opportunity Club here...
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200% GROWTH CHALLENGE
Neil - I agree all you say about getting into markets at the right time. The last ten years have been very good in most countries, mainly because of falling interest rates and increasingly easy credit. This trend is now going into reverse and my view is that the next ten years will be far more difficult. The trend will be one of stagnation in property prices. The question is, of course, whether there are markets that will significantly buck that trend. It seems to me it is not inevitable that Bulgaria, Romania, Poland, Croatia, Ukraine etc will necessarily see very good further growth. The best may be behind us. Nor will Germany automatically do well just because it is cheap.
I too am chasing that ideal new market. My property portfolia is held entirely in Poland. However, I am beginning to wonder if the fundamentals may not in fact now be better in South America? (eg Uruguay, Argentina, Brazil) Could that be the place for the next 200% growth investment?
Any thoughts?
Stephen Barnes
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LATIN AMERICA
Hi Stephen
Thanks - yes, we are starting to consider Latin America - I think it is the next natural region once Eastern Europe has delivered its growth - but I still think it is in the wait and see mode.
For instance, there is a lot of interest in this region from Spain (due to history and language) and from our Spanish office we are considering these countries - but none strike us a obvious or immediate candidates.
I am particularly concerned by the selling of the Brazilian beach - I think this offers a great profit for the land holders (and agents) - but dreadful for off plan investors (another version of the Bulgarian coast in my view - where investors can't sell for years).
But, there will be some Latin American cities that benefit.
The big risk in many Latin American countries are
a) availability of finance
b) size of country (ie will it be overlooked by FDI)
c) currency and debt risks
... I have read the view that the region is sorting out its democratic credentials and this will make it more attractive than Asia (where Thailand has reversed the recent trend) etc...
So, we're open to this possibility - but on our initial reading - we think it is still too early.
Nevertheless, what you say about credit is true - and will affect all markets - which means I guess we should focus only on the strongest - and I think you can be a cautious investor in Central Eastern Europe and still find excellent growth opportunities.
Cheers
Neil
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BRAZILIAN BEACH
Neil
Thanks for that. I agree with you. It may be too early for South America and that there is more to squeeze nearer home if careful.
Particularly agree about avoiding beach and non-core property. The Property Secrets strategy of concentrating on meeting the needs of local populations in sizeable cities is, I am sure, the best and safest one. In contrast, the demand for beach type property is very fickle and could well fall away quite fast if the world economy goes through a difficult patch and the cost of credit increases. I really don't know where all the buyers (and renters) are to come from for beach type apartments in Bulgaria, Morocco, Turkey, Montenegro etc...and indeed Spain and, as you say, Brazil. The World has a lot of beach!
Stephen
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Sibiu - Saxon centre of Romania - and coffee shop heaven?
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 Sibiu - in the heart of Saxon (Transylvania) Romania - is also a heaven for Coffee drinkers. The heart of this surprisingly germanic looking town (imagine the village in Disney's Beauty and the Beast - and you'll be pretty close to Sibiu) is a pedestrian area lined with hotels, coffee shops, bars and resturants. And I paid about 1.7 Euros for a coffee in the town centre – which again suggests that there is money in this town. I am not for a moment denying that many people in Romania aren’t living either in poverty (ie the poor in cities) or a subsistence living (as per those villages in the Saxon Villages which are selling up homes for 10,000 Euros) or the Roma population living on the road. However, the key point is that the emerging middle class in Romania (and perhaps a kind of previously ‘underground’ middle class) is paying ‘normal prices’ for normal things. Like Cappuccionos. In fact, a large number of items – clothes and white goods – are more expensive in Romania that aboard (Italy, Germany or UK). Why? Simple – volume! This was exactly the same as in Valencia 5 years ago – before Valencia launched a 200% growth in property prices. And, I think this will play a key part in key Romanian cities development! Just as in Valencia 5 years ago – lots of wealthy people were shopping abroad. Of course, as soon as the same products were delivered to their doorsteps in large shopping malls (downtown and out of town) they bought at home. Previously, the level of demand had been too low to justfiy large warehouses of electronic goods or new shopping malls - but, finally, once the town reaches a tipping point the demand for this kind of shopping - locally - becomes unstopable. This explains why new supermarkets in Romania are swamped with shoppers on opening days and the days that follow. But, back to Sibiu – the city – 170,000 odd – clearly has a lot of money. Some of that money has been brought from abroad by a Saxon (ie German) mayor. Sibiu’s previous name was Hermannstat – and the link with Germany is very close – and very important. The small city is also linked with Valencia, Spain and Luxemburg. And it was the link with Luxemburg that brought the European City of Culture award and a lot of support and advice to rennovate the city centre – and keep the building structures in tact. In addition, the town has benefited from the work of the GTZ a German/ Romanian partnership. Prince Charles has even been buying up houses in nearby local Saxon villages – after all Prince Albert (husband of Queen Victoria) was previously Duke of Saxony in Germany . The truly surprising thing is – just how Germanic (ie ordered and comfortable and prosperous) this part of Romania is. And the German influence goes into business too. The airport is being extended and expanded – it currently includes flights to Austria, Italy and Germany. See more information about Sibiu international airport. Lindner – a German company – is part of the consortium upgrading and expanding the airport. Siemens has a large factory on the outside of the town – and has just bought a building near the old town (perhaps for future offices?). Either way, the city is awash with Germany companies and German entrepreneurs who appear to find the location (and the high level of German speaking people) much easier to do business in – than the more extreme Bucharest and of course, much more exciting (business wise) than Germany. And this is drawing other west European companies to Sibiu too - who are looking for a less complex entry into the huge potential of the Romania market. Sibiu – is truly a jewel in the Transylvanian Kingdom. It retains deep connections with Germany – and therefore, draws an unusually large number of Germany’s companies who want to be in Romania for the opportunity but find business life hard in Bucharest. There clearly is money in the city. And that has to translate into property price growth. With a almost perfectly retained old city centre – albeit in need of renovation around the edges – the city has not really been destroyed by the years of communism. However, its layout – mainly town houses – and traditional Saxon houses (the equivalent of London’s Victorian terraces) mean that the housing density is low. The thing that surprised the local Romanian developer that we spoke to was that the majority of people placing deposits for his development had ordinary jobs – bank tellers, semi-skilled workers etc… And, on his previous development, 80% of people had used a mortgage to finalise the purchase. These were not the cash buyers of which the property market had consisted until now. This is a first sign that ordinary people were able to earn and raise sufficient money to finance a new property – and that they really wanted it! 75% of the property sold (all to locals) within 2 months – and with no promotion and the half hearted efforts of a local estate agent. Sibiu is not, therefore, just a beautiful relic - a tourist centre - but, it is also a centre of entreprise and investment. From a UK perspective, it is a combination of a Bath or a York - but with the growth potential of a Bristol or Leeds. Such is the market and opportunity in Sibiu. And as such, it has to be a key candidate for the 200% club. Cheers Neil ps. Next - I'm off to Brasov, Romania - and coming up soon - 'why isn't Romanian property cheap - and what this means to property investors'
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Cluj-Napoca, Romania – winning the battle to be number two – candidate for 200% club?
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Cluj Napoca, Romania – a city of 314,000 inhabitants plus a further 65,000 students - expects to grow in the next year to 500,000 by a simple sleight of hand.
The sleight of hand is that it will extend its city boundaries to create a metropolitan area that takes in neighbouring villages on the edge of the city and so boost the population towards 500,000.
However, there is logic in the sleight of hand, and more significant is the claim that the city will at least double in size to 1m population in the next 10 years (although the more optimistic figure is a quadrupling of size to 2m).
One reason for the new metropolitan area is that EU funds are handed out on the basis of population numbers. Therefore, expand your city and get more money! It seems it is that simple. A second reason is that there is a real battle going on between the different cities in Romania to attract the big investment money and private companies. Being bigger makes you a more obvious choice.
And of course, an expanding city population – coupled with a desire for bigger living spaces and better accommodation – will turbo charge property prices and returns for property investors.
Equally, Cluj-Napoca is proving successful at drawing more than just EU funds and is winning a whole list of battles to become Romania’s second city – as below:
i) The city major is a senior figure in the ruling national government and is proving successful at tapping government funds for the city ii) The city (well actually the village of Jucu - just outside the city – but soon to be incorporated in the metropolitan area) has just won the Nokia mobile phone manufacturing plant. This was in the face of stiff competition from an existing plant in Hungary and Brasov – also in Romania. iii) The European highway will pass close by to Cluj-Napoca and so free the city centre and residential districts from national and international traffic and trucks iv) Cluj-Napoca keeps large numbers of its young graduates – as they like the lifestyle plus they can find good jobs and excellent opportunities in the city. Equally, the city is smaller and easier to navigate that the capital Bucharest (A bit like choosing Manchester or Edinburgh in place of a London career). v) The large student numbers are guaranteeing Cluj a steady workforce of young people every year (this is not the case in many cities) vi) Significant numbers of highly influential ex-pat Cluj residents are returning to the city and importing Anglo-Saxon capitalism and professionalism vii) The city is building two large shopping centres – as either end of the town and has plans for a third centre in the town centre with a fourth mall a future possibility. viii) The population growth of the city has moved it from 5th largest to 2nd largest city in Romania based on latest figures
Being a winning city in Romania is vitally important – because there are significant migration flows of people in Romania – and understanding those flows (and predicting their patterns and direction) are key to finding a 200% growth candidate vs a non-performing asset.
Here is why….
Essentially, property prices rise when the demand is greater than the supply. The supply is relatively easy to measure – how many building permits were granted and units completed in the past years.
However, demand is much more tricky to predict. However, once a country has a maturing financial system (offering mortgages and credit at reason terms for property purchase) then the simplest rule of thumb is to measure or track migration.
Essentially, when new jobs are created, this draws in workers from outside. For instance in Cluj-Napoca the unemployment level is currently 1.9% and there are significant number of construction workers who have been brought into the city to meet the work demand. (These have come from nearby Romanian villages as well as from as far as Turkey (alledgedly 1,000 are working on the motorway – and are housed in a temporary camp near the site). Equally, to meet the battle of the malls (ie two shopping centres are both competing to be the first mall to open in Cluj-Napoca and win the publicity battle) one constructor has employed a large construction team from China.
On another building site we found Romanians working – but interestingly, they were not from Cluj-Napoca but from the nearby village (where there is no work).
Clearly, the Nokia plant will also employ a large number of low cost workers – but the managers and senior managers (perhaps 20% of the total force) will quickly see their incomes rise to similar levels as managers and senior managers in other Nokia plant.
And, it is likely that many of these new Cluj-Napoca workers will come from outside Cluj-Napoca – or will have been drawn to Cluj by the university and persuaded to stay by an interesting and well paid job.
In addition, Ikea has situated its construction factory next to the Nokia plant and many component suppliers have agreed to move to Cluj as well to supply these two massive assembly lines.
Now, whilst FDI concentrates on the ‘big’ industrial investments – and the evidence of them can be seen in large shinny grey sheds appearing in new business parks – the real growth of a city is driven by services and service industries.
It is well know that service industries deliver higher wage growth than manufacturing (likewise, the managers in the offices of Nokia will be treated as white collar workers – earning salaries far, far higher than those on the assembly line).
Cluj-Napoca is building for itself a strong presence of banking and accounting services. For instance, the Transylvanian Bank has 25 branches in Cluj and at least 4 processing/ business offices. This is the largest bank in the town.
Retail and retail services are also key to a cities future. And whilst it is obvious that the new retail centres will drive consumption (with lower prices and more choice – many Cluj residents still travel to Germany for better and cheaper clothes) they will also create jobs and the need for distribution and supply chain management.
And guess what? Right next to the Nokia business park there will be a large leisure and cinema complex built.
One serving the needs of the other – and so on and so forth.
In fact, whilst many will concentrate on the headline figure of 15,000 jobs coming to Cluj-Napoca as a result of the Nokia decision (direct employment at Nokia and its suppliers) the real significance lies in the development of services to meet the needs of these businesses and new inhabitants plus the substantial infrastructural developments.
My understanding is that in order to secure Nokia’s signature the local government had to agree to an extension to the airport runway (from 1.8 to 3.2 kms – so that it can now land intercontinental planes) and a 4 lane (each way) highway connecting the airport with the Nokia plant.
And, as you’d expect, business parks are going to jump out of the ground around the airport and such a substantial highway. There is no reason to believe that they will have anything to do with mobile phones or furniture – simply that the proposition of such fabulous infrastructure will be unbeatable in the western side of Romania.
The real growth in Cluj will happen naturally now, it just needed a few kick starts and the Nokia decision will be key to drawing in new businesses and new jobs in non related sectors.
Let me also mention what has happened to retail in the city..
The first multi-storey car park opened two weeks ago (a sad day of course, but clear signs of increased shopping power and cars – ie the ability to carry away a lot of goods in one go) At least two more multi-storey car parks are on the way 2 years ago there were only 10 high street brands in Cluj (the rest were cheap Chinese stores or 2nd hand shops – see my article on what second hand calculators told me about the property investment market in Brno, Czech Republic Now, there are 200 to 300 high street brands in Cluj and the 2nd hand stores and Chinese shops have nearly disappeared (rents per m2 have risen from 75 to 250) and the new shops are thriving and making money. - The new city centre pedestrian area – Boulevard Eroilor – will open in Sept 07
Any new supermarket launched in Cluj-Napoca was swamped the day it opened its doors
There is something highly energetic about this city – even on a 37c day in late July when the students had gone home and many were on holiday.
I must say, I’d hate to see the traffic on a busy day – but this is one bustling and thriving city that is going places.
My view is that Cluj-Napoca will win the battle of the biggest city in Western Romania – and has an even chance (with Constanta) of becoming the 2nd city in Romania.
Either way, Cluj will deliver substantial growth in the coming years for smart property investors who can see beyond the present and foresee the potential.
The key is that this is a true free market – many people are behaving like entrepreneurs and new businesses are cropping up left right and centre. This compares with the (almost) stagnant feeling that I get when I visited a city like Vienna – which is highly regulated and over controlled.
In fact, a number of Europeans (Brits included) and giving up on life at home and moving to Romania because they see massive opportunity and the freedom to innovate.
Cluj-Napoca increasingly has the means to attract and keep the smart minds and entrepreneurial skills that will drive the city forward. If you can stand the traffic there won’t be many better places to launch a new business.
And that also means that there is very real energy AND action behind Cluj-Napoca’s claim to double (if not quadruple) its population in the coming years.
This will massively drive property prices – especially for those developments that are well or centrally located – and offers great opportunity to smart property investors.
So yes, Cluj-Napoca makes onto my 200% growth list.
Cheers Neil
Ps. Next stop – Sibiu – city of culture 2007 – a stunning story of a town undergoing a historical and practically miraculous recovery. (I have the feeling my list might be filling up quickly…)
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FRI 27TH JULY
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Property Investment Potential of Hungary - picking Gyor and Pecs?
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I'm continuing my hunt for cities with the potential to deliver 200% growth in the next 5 years.
Yesterday, I covered the political challenge to make Budapest and Hungary a great property investment location. And as Robin Bowman added yesterday, the jury is still out on Hungary's economic improvements.
Today, asking the question - will any other cities in Hungary make make attractive property investment opportunities?
Hungary offers a logistical centre inside the EU and at the heart of Europe (Old and New). It has higher costs than neighbours (and much higher / unreformed taxes) but offers better productivity.
It is Hungary's logistical advantage that has led to Asian electronics companies to base factories in this country. Essentially, many electronics products are 'big boxes'. This means that as the price of the product (toasters to TVs) falls, the distribution cost becomes a larger % of the overall cost. Hence, the best place to put your TV manufacturing plant - all things being equal - is in the best distribution point.
The country can be divided into 4 main parts
Budapest - the capital
The Danube Bend - West and North West of Budapest - hills of Buda and the way to Vienna. Following the Danube river (northern border with Slovakia). This region forms part of the car cluster - that includes Slovakia and Trnava.
East and South East of Budapest - the great planes - predominantly agriculture and the poorest region.
North (and North East) - hills and mountains to Slovakia and the old mining and industrial heart (with highest unemployment). Population Distribution
One major capital city - with 2m inhabitants and 5 regional city centres - with around 300,000 inhabitants each.
10m in Hungary2m in Budapest2m in 2nd tier cities (below)6m in towns and villages
There is no clear second city (which makes investment outside Budapest trickier).
Communications
Roads are an urgent priorityRail network with large - but needs substantial upgrading.
The Danube provides an addition method of low cost water transport for containers and large items (such as rolled steel). This connects to Vienna and Bratislava to the north and has the potential to connect to Belgrade in the south (not currently navigable for large ships).
Traffic can continue on the Danube into Germany and as far as Amsterdam - although I don't know if large ships are able to navigate that far?
Budapest ========
- M0 - ring road motorway around south and east side of city
- Redevelopment of Budapest container terminal
- Redevelopment of Pest city centre - Champs Elyses of Budapest
- Plans to develop the riverside (to remove traffic) from Pest side of the river
- 30% of Hungarian labour force is in or around Budapest.
- Buda and 5th District of Pest - are the expensive districts
- 9th and 8th districts are seeing large scale development (8th district still has a very poor reputation - and is regarded as dangerous). However, where the 8th district touches the Danube river, there is/ will be riverside living developments and the new National Theatre (like London's South Bank, I guess?)
- A new bridge is being constructed in the north - between 3rd and 13th district.
- 15th and 14th are panelak districts (although 14th contains some expensive areas)
- 16th districts - contains detached houses
Gyor - 2nd tier city ==============
Audi engine plant - producing 1m engines per yearUniversity townNew port on the Danube creating multi-modal logistics centre
Large new steel mill (Danish) nearby will transport rolled steel via the Danube Cultural city Miskolc - 2nd tier city ======== Technical university Centre of the poorest region in Hungary Szeged - 2nd tier city ======== University city Cultural city
Debrecen - 2nd tier city ======== University city Biotech centre
Pecs - 2nd tier city ==== University city Finish aerospace investment - creating 6,000 jobs Relatively high unemployment - previously a mining centre Cultural capital of Europe 2010 World Heritage site
Other towns - and key recent FDI
Szentgotthard ========== Opel factory
Komaron ======== Nokia phone factory - largest in Europe (claim?). This has drawn labour from across the Slovak border. Note - a new Nokia factory has been announced for Cluj-Napoca in Romania (which I am visiting tomorrow).
Esztergom ============ Suzuki car plant - 300,000 cars per year
Szekesfehervar ============== Phillips electronics
Summary ========
Budapest is the obvious place for property investment.
Looking around Hungary there is no obvious second city. Candidates for investment might be Pecs (which will be European Capital of Culture) or Gyor - with a new Danube port and proximity to Slovakia and Austria.
These would be my two candidates for 200% growth in the next five years - but perhaps we are ahead of ourselves by one to three years?
If I had to choose one city, it would probably be Gyor as having the greatest potential - although I have to admit that I haven't visited this city,
Perhaps we should see if the reforms work first and Budapest takes off before we head for the second cities? Got a view?
Cheers Neil
ps. Tomorrow I am in Cluj-Napoca, Romania looking at the new industrial, retail investments in this city and deciding if I really believe it has the potential to grow from 400,000 (including students) to 2 million in the next 10 years! Watch this space...
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Budapest Political Property Potential....
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Is Budapest a great property investment location?
At Property Secrets we've been cautious about Hungary and Budapest mainly due to the debt and currency risks.
So, I went to Budapest to see if the city is changing and if we should start to look at Budapest as a potential investment location.
Budapest is a beautiful city. It combines a layout that is similar to Prague (river + castle on the left bank and city on the right bank) but has the grandeur of Vienna (ie Museums and Imperial Palaces and boulvards - called The Ring in Vienna).
And, in someways, Budapest's property investment opportunity reflects these two cites too.
Budapest has a background feeling of grumpiness and river vistas - like Prague but also has the unkept/ poorly maintain feeling of malaise that Vienna has.
(As an aside - Vienna is a classic Germanic property recovery case - more so than Berlin, I believe - but there appears to be absolutely no property investor chat about Vienna whilst everyone has an opinion on Berlin. Why? Can only be the marketing, surely?)
Anyway, the key problem with Vienna is political. It has a socialist city government which likes to keep taxes high which pays for a social housing scheme which is designed to wreck the private investment market.
I'm not saying that Budapest has these same problem - but it does have a different political problem which is key to unlocking its property investment potential.
That is, Budapest and Hungary, suffer from high taxes (including a tax on a companies INCOME - not just profit) as well as income tax upto 36% (it reaches 50% in Austria). Either way, this is a very high tax rate compared to its neighbours (Slovakia 19% and Romania 16%).
These tax structures are complex and encourage money to stay in the black market (this is how companies reduce their revenues and therefore taxes).
The good news, tho', is that the current Hungarian government is on a path of reform.
Government debt was 9% of GDP in Jan 07 and is due to fall to 6% of GDP by the end of Dec 07. (Note, Euro entry requires debt as a % of GDP to be less than 3%). Hence, very good progress is being made - but a lot more remains to be done.
There is also an intention to simplify the taxes - but the ability of the government to reduce taxes is hampered by high levels of debt.
Equally, reform (and reduction of government spending) is politically risky. Currently the government is a coalition, so the chances of collapse of this round of reform is high.
The compulsion to reform will be driven by missing out on the economic growth of its neighbours and hence the more it suffers short term - perversely - the more likely is long term reform.
Therefore, Budapest has the arcitecture to be a stunningly beautiful city. This has the ability to draw the head offices of corporations and the trendy creative people with it.
However, Budapest is a recovery play - it is for the first time on the path of reform - the currency has recovered and risk of a currency collapse has receeded.
In many ways, Hungary can't help but be successful - 3 neighbours are booming like mad - Romania, Poland, Slovakia along with good growth in Austria and Slovenia - so in many ways it can't help but grow.
The risk is that this easy 'gifted' growth might dampen the need for reform.
In Autumn of last year people were on the streets protesting at the governments admission of lying about the economy. This appears to have compelled the coalition to pool their efforts to agree a reform package.
But will it last? Will the government - this one or the next one - be able to carry out reforms without the carrot of EU entry (this is how the other countries did it)?
On this issue... the likelihood of tax and fiscal reform ... the decision to invest in Budapest should be made.
It is possible that Hungary will simply deliver watered down reforms - like those in Germany - or it might genuinely make itself competitive with its low tax neighbours.
Hungary and Budapest have relatively high productivity rates. The city is cosmopolitan and big - 2 million - twice the size of Prague.
It lies at the centre of Central and South Eastern Europe. Physically, it is the natural place for logistics and big box manufactures (this is why Phillips is here - and why Hungary is attracting Asian electronics companies (TV's come in big boxes these days).
But, the reforms are costing jobs - doctors, nurses and the health care system are being reduced. (You can imagine how unpopular this makes them). Government jobs are being lost too.
This must have an impact on the economy as it pulls jobs out of the economy.
At the moment, this will be masked by growth in other areas and a moderate economic GDP growth.
The question remains - whilst the government can probably get debt down to 6% of GDP by the end of 07 - can it get debit below 3%?
If it can then the reforms will have been accepted and Euro entry becomes a real possiblity (with a 50% reduction in interet rates). In this scenario property investors would reap great rewards.
But, it might not happen at all, it might be delayed or it might simply take much longer.
On that, you have to rely on the ability of the current political leadership to carry through the reforms.
Based on a coalition government this is a big risk.
But on the evidence so far, it might be a risk worth taking.
Cheers Neil
With full tax and fiscal reforms - Budapest could be a 200% candidate for property price growth - but I think the most likely outcome is moderate reforms are delivered / implemented. This would drop Budapest out of the 200% club.
However, if you like Berlin (ie recovery plays) then perhaps Budapest is a better alternative - on the assumption that you are willing to wait? So, I'm not putting Budapest in my 200% club - not yet anyway - but I'll put it near the top of a list of recovery plays?
Agree or disagree?
ps. I haven't considered that there may be over supply of new build to the north and south of Budapest. Whilst this may or may not be true (opinion anyone?) I don't think this would stop you investing in Budapest. It would simply guide you away from big developments on the city fringe and direct you to redevelopment of city fringe blocks.
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WED 25TH JULY
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WAIT AND SEE ON HUNGARY'S RISKS AND UNCERTAINTIES
NeilIt's useful to read the views of a dispassionate expert on the ground in Budapest. And I think you're dead right on Hungary.The government has clearly made good progress in turning the dire economic state around - and impressed the EU along the way. It's also impressed currency investors, as you noted.But, the situation was so desperate last year (as reflected in the currency in the first three quarters of the year), that any sign that the government was tackling the country's economic woes was bound to drive up confidence. I'd say that currency strength in an emerging economy like Hungary's can be a very fickle indicator of economic strength - or weakness.The fact remains that there is a long, long way to go, AND the efforts needed - which consist of very tough political decisions - to shrink that deficit - still the highest in Europe - become increasingly harder. The really big challenges for Hungary lie ahead - not behind. It still needs to tackle cuts and efficiencies in the politically hyper-sensitive areas of health, pensions and state bureaucracy.The economy hasn't turned the corner yet and, I agree with you, that this means we can't yet see the strong likelihood of the kind of fast economic growth and the consequent high cap growth in the property market that's needed to join the 200% club.The latest EU report on Hungary's progress provided some useful insight on the current state of play.In a generally upbeat report, which praised Hungary's efforts, the EU monetary affairs commissioner, Joaquin Almunia, added a cautionary message, saying that the country's finances were still 'fragile' and the 2009 deadline for coming into line with the EU's stability pact's 3% of GDP limit on fiscal deficit was subject to 'risks and uncertainties'. That's EU speak for 'the jury's still out.'Tellingly, Almunia added that the EU would continue to monitor Hungary closely, especially in the light of its 'past record' of being economical with the truth about the state of its finances. The government did after all lie for years to its people and the EU.The bottom line is - maybe Budapest will turn out to be a winner, but the prospects are far from clear yet. So, why should an investor take the risk when you look at the alternatives?CheersRobin
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POSTED BY
ROBIN BOWMAN
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FRI 27TH JULY
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10:11
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BAD NEWS FOR HUNGARY
Guys
Well, it seems the summer squeeze on credit is putting the reforms in Hungary at risk.
See this very down beat review by the EIU
http: / /www .economist .com /daily /news /displaystory .cfm?story _id=9675615
"Hungary, however, is in the midst of an austerity drive that has nearly brought the economy to a standstill. In a region where first-quarter GDP growth averaged around 7%, Hungary’s economy grew by just 2.7%. The flash estimate for the second quarter, at just 1.4% year on year, is even more alarming. In this context, the maintenance of relatively high interest rates at their current level is the last thing the economy needs. Still, this remains a serious risk."
So, there is a substantial risk that Hungary's reforms won't bite before the markets do.
This doesn't destroy the long term potential of beautiful Budapest.
But it does mean it is a wait and see - ie. wait until there is a decent opportunity to buy and any blood spilling is over - and then come into the market on a value basis.
Bad news for those already invested - but a potential candidate for investors in 1 to 2 years time?
Cheers
Neil
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POSTED BY
NEIL LEWIS
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WED 22ND AUGUST
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15:13
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HUNGARY
I like this Idea ..... a running commentary on each country!! Forum threads for all of the potential markets.
I agree with everything your man on the ground has to say, however I am more upbeat about it. The poor growth figures are just a blip, as for the existing coalition - if It fails, I do not see it as necessarily a bad thing. If Fidesz takes the reins of power they will continue with asterity measures but will also cut taxes and thus I see that the country will become more competitive.
The drive to the EMU will not be slowed, the current government has started down this route - no going back, no future government would DARE to reverse the progress. Thats how I see it anyway.
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POSTED BY
RICHARD
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THU 23RD AUGUST
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07:43
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The Budapest, Hungary Problem - a preview
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As anyone familiar with Property Secrets knows we don't believe everything that glitters is gold!
Budapest - a shinning gem of a city - certainly glitters - but is it gold?
To avoid being seduced with wonderous pictures of the city - let me show you what has happened to the currency in the past 12 months.
As you can see - the Florint has risen sharply against the Euro. This is the opposite of what we predicted because the economy has had too much debt (a bit like the US) and this is the invese of the normal (but often delayed) result.
This means buying property in Hungary has got 10% more expensive (and anyone sell in Hungarian Florints and converting back to Euros will receive an extra 10% bonus on the property price).
Interestingly, Hungarian interest rates are coming down (slowly) and Euro rates go up (as one economy is weak and the other strong).
My question for today is -
... does this mean that Hungary now got its economy in order? If so, then, may be now would be a good time to invest - if not, then it will be wait and see!
I'm surprised by this currency graph and suspect it will be 'good progress - time to take a closer look...'
(Possibly like the south of Germany?)
Cheers Neil
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POSTED BY
NEIL LEWIS
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MON 23RD JULY
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07:44 GMT
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Verona - the Italian Candidate for the 200% Club?
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The Italian A4 motorway runs east-west from France to Slovenia, just north of Milan.
Think of it as the southern stretch of an Alpine ring road - running around Switzerland.
The motorway is in a bit of a state. Perhaps I am being unfair - judging it during peak traffic - but it is long over due a 4th lane.
Equally, the toll system (mostly manual payments) feels old and need of an overhaul.
However, the overhaul is coming - the 4th lane is being built and along the stretch the most impressive location - for crane count and new logistic and office centres plus hotels - is around Verona and Padoa.
I know some key london estate agents have started to set up shop in Milan - and I even saw a Spanish franchise estate agent in lake Garda (although the doors were lock and everyone had gone on holiday I suspect!)
Still, at a glance - how about Verona, Italy?
Cheers Neil
ps. This is to add to the list of Lviv, Ukraine and Bistritia, Romania...
pps. The 200% club is a list of cities who's property price has the potential to increase 200% in the next 5 years... please add your suggestions below...
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